Bjarne Vind Sørensen

So, can you please tell your name and the place where you're from?

Yes, my name is Bjarne Vind Sørensen and I come from Denmark. I live in Copenhagen.

Wonderful. So what's the thing that struck you most in these days here in Reykjavik?

Of course, as always, so many things — but if I should put it, there's one kind of mix... one impression, maybe — this mix of how much hope I have had in the ODDESSI trial, and how the research would show us many things.

And so I was thinking about my own expectations: what will this project show us, and how much will we see?

And then, when it comes, it's a very different feeling to hear the results and what is in there. And maybe that's to do with my expectations — hoping that we can do something in this field and make more services better. When you read the numbers and the statistics, it's not... it's not exciting, because it's numbers, and you don't get the quality of all the ten years of work they put in, in London, in all the teams. So there's a mix of hope and... and thinking about my disappointment — but it talks to my expectations. So I think now I will go home to Denmark and I will try to make something bigger happen — and I really will do that.

And also, I think: what does this kind of study teach us that we didn't know before?

And how can we... So I have a very mixed feeling: hopeful, and also a bit disappointed — or maybe not disappointed... maybe a little bit.

Thinking: how could I expect this from a study?

Because it's probably not going to... So it's, again, the people I meet, the possibilities, and what I learned: that is probably the best of the study. Yeah — so this mixed feeling, I guess.

Okay, thank you. Is there a single word, a phrase or an idea that you bring back home to your work?

Ah. A phrase. Just one. Yeah, I'm thinking.

That's difficult.

Thinking... I think hope, really. Hope — but that's maybe always the case. Hope is probably the word I try to take, and... be careful with the word hope.

Right. And this is the last question: where do you think Open Dialogue will be in 2030?

Yes — so, I've been involved for many years now, and if I go ten years back and think about now... it's probably the same: maybe the realistic expectation is going to be people all over, here and there; some more research done, some people still working. But, well — my expectation in Denmark is that we're going to provide a full service of Open Dialogue, with all models working together. That's my ambition. And I'm going to do everything I can to make that happen.

But, again — maybe my expectations are always very high, and I have to work with my expectations.

Fine. Thank you for the interview. Do you want to add something, any comment, or whatever?

So, I guess the plan is that we're going to organize a meeting two years from now in Denmark, and one of my ambitions — one of my hopes — is that we can make it more accessible. We will see if that can be possible, and how we can do it — do we have to look for funding? But that's one of my ambitions. That looks wonderful. Thank you. — Thank you.